# Apparance Editor sometimes closes and can't be opened again

**URL:** <https://forums.apparance.uk/t/apparance-editor-sometimes-closes-and-cant-be-opened-again/45>\
**Category:** Bugs\
**Created:** [19 November 2021 13:33 UTC](https://forums.apparance.uk/t/apparance-editor-sometimes-closes-and-cant-be-opened-again/45 "2021-11-19T13:33:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![EduardoHulshof](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.apparance.uk/eduardohulshof/32/66_2.png) [@EduardoHulshof](https://forums.apparance.uk/u/EduardoHulshof)\
**Post date:** [19 November 2021 13:33 UTC](https://forums.apparance.uk/t/apparance-editor-sometimes-closes-and-cant-be-opened-again/45/1 "2021-11-19T13:33:42Z")

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Sometimes the Apparance Editor closes silently and can’t be open again, no crash warnings, asserts, or logs. The Unreal Editor needed to be restarted.

I don’t have a solid repro for this one, unfortunately, but I’ll keep an eye out. Seems to be when deleting nodes of a graph that is currently in use in the Unreal Editor, but it’s not easily repro’d.

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**Author:** ![sam](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.apparance.uk/sam/32/8_2.png) [@sam](https://forums.apparance.uk/u/sam)\
**Post date:** [19 November 2021 13:55 UTC](https://forums.apparance.uk/t/apparance-editor-sometimes-closes-and-cant-be-opened-again/45/2 "2021-11-19T13:55:53Z")

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That means the editor app crashed, you will need to restart Unreal. I may have seen this, but not got a repro yet. Let me know if you spot a pattern or get it loads.

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**Author:** ![EduardoHulshof](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.apparance.uk/eduardohulshof/32/66_2.png) [@EduardoHulshof](https://forums.apparance.uk/u/EduardoHulshof)\
**Post date:** [19 November 2021 18:12 UTC](https://forums.apparance.uk/t/apparance-editor-sometimes-closes-and-cant-be-opened-again/45/3 "2021-11-19T18:12:35Z")

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I also have a hang while saving that happens every now and then

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/apparance/original/1X/e41d5e2f566d1599b5c64749fb08a3d4a12a8c85.png)

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**Author:** ![sam](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.apparance.uk/sam/32/8_2.png) [@sam](https://forums.apparance.uk/u/sam)\
**Post date:** [22 November 2021 10:07 UTC](https://forums.apparance.uk/t/apparance-editor-sometimes-closes-and-cant-be-opened-again/45/4 "2021-11-22T10:07:08Z")

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Hmm, what was the state of Unreal? Locked, doing something, fine? Had you been making lots of interactive edits? Were the procedural objects in the scene large/complex? How long did you leave it before killing it? Could you dig out the log next time this happens (project/Saved/Logs) please too.